Best Fitness Watch for Paddling?

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4 years 3 weeks ago #36304 by peteski
I've been using a fenix 5 for 3 years now, 3 or 4 times a week, mostly downwind paddling so it gets properly soaked and there's no sign of corrosion on the charging terminals.

Fennix Swordfish S - Carbon Hybrid

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4 years 3 weeks ago #36305 by zachhandler
Does the stroke rate function on the fenix 5 work if the device is put on the footstrap or does it need to be on the wrist?

Current Skis: Epic v10 g3, NK 670 double, NK exrcize, Kai Wa’a Vega, Carbonology Feather, Think Jet, Knysna Sonic X
Former Skis: Epic V12 g2, Epic V12 g1, Epic v10 double, Nelo 550 g2, Fenn Elite S, Custom Kayaks Synergy

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4 years 3 weeks ago #36306 by TomVW
Needs to be on the wrist, I am afraid. Unless you have some mighty stroke, that is....

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4 years 3 weeks ago #36307 by zachhandler

TomVW wrote: Needs to be on the wrist, I am afraid. Unless you have some mighty stroke, that is....


Thanks. Would not be a useful feature for me then. 

Current Skis: Epic v10 g3, NK 670 double, NK exrcize, Kai Wa’a Vega, Carbonology Feather, Think Jet, Knysna Sonic X
Former Skis: Epic V12 g2, Epic V12 g1, Epic v10 double, Nelo 550 g2, Fenn Elite S, Custom Kayaks Synergy

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4 years 3 weeks ago - 4 years 3 weeks ago #36308 by Steve Hansen
Shout out to Zach Handler, who skied 2:09 for the American Birkebeiner cross country ski race. That's 31 miles. Only 10 minutes behind the winner who is a member of the Norwegian national team. Awesome achievement Zach !
Last edit: 4 years 3 weeks ago by Steve Hansen. Reason: change distance

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4 years 3 weeks ago #36313 by zachhandler
Thanks Steve! I started nordic ski racing when i was a kid and never stopped so I am fairly proficient at it. In surfski on the other hand I am a self-trained mid-life hack  like  just about everyone else on this forum. But I  love it so. I was fully addicted to after my first downwind paddle, even though I was horribly bad at it and had to remount about 50 times. That joy has never faded. Nothing beats a good downwinder!

Current Skis: Epic v10 g3, NK 670 double, NK exrcize, Kai Wa’a Vega, Carbonology Feather, Think Jet, Knysna Sonic X
Former Skis: Epic V12 g2, Epic V12 g1, Epic v10 double, Nelo 550 g2, Fenn Elite S, Custom Kayaks Synergy

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3 years 11 months ago #36552 by mrcharly
So, I've been using my phone with either gopaddler or strava to give me a speed and distance.

With current phone, neither app updates very rapidly. Takes maybe 30s to pick up a change in speed.
If I'm doing intervals and want to hit and maintain a target speed, this is really poor.

Question, are the Garmin watches faster to update?

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3 years 11 months ago #36554 by SpaceSputnik
They are. My basic Forunner picks up changes in speed in a few seconds.
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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #36570 by AndyS
@Zachhandler: Try a Vaaka device for your paddle. Gives you live cadence and if you load down the Vaaka distance/stroke app to your Fenix 5 also that particular live data. Fenix stays on your foot strap. Really useful to dial in stroke efficiency by correlating above parameters with speed.
Cheers, Andy
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3 years 10 months ago #36764 by 1932023550378760@facebook
Is the mount you are reffering to specific to Epic? I'm trying to figure out how people are mounting watches on foot straps. I'm in a Stellar and it would be a fair amount of work to strap the watch into the foot straps.

Would you have photos?

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3 years 10 months ago #36768 by SpaceSputnik

1932023550378760@facebook wrote: Is the mount you are reffering to specific to Epic? I'm trying to figure out how people are mounting watches on foot straps. I'm in a Stellar and it would be a fair amount of work to strap the watch into the foot straps.

Would you have photos?


On my Forerunner 25 the strap is removable like on a regular watch. I took it off and stitched two short pieces of velcro so when they engage the watch sits flat. Works great on a strap, sits in place without moving. 

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3 years 10 months ago #36825 by 10157525973356270@facebook

XLV wrote: Will be switching to something else in the next year. Are there any other apple watch apps that I should be trying out?


If you still have the Apple Watch try an app called Paddle Logger.

apps.apple.com/au/app/paddle-logger-for-watersports/id955311911

I use the free version and it's been really good so far. The developers have responded pretty quickly when any issues have popped up or when I've suggested changes.  The only problem can be battery life but if I keep my sessions to under 2.5 hours then it normally has enough juice to make it through - curiously a 3+hr ride on the bike lasts without issues so I think it's something related to their app...

You can export the GPX files too so you can upload to Strava if you want. Note: the free version doesn't show all the info within the app itself, but when it's exported to Strava you get a lot more information (max speed etc).

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3 years 9 months ago #36939 by hawk_nt647
I use a Garmin bike mount kit with my Fenix 5 on the paddle. I also wear a heart rate monitor. I use the SUP app to get stroke rate and distance per stroke and change activity to "paddling" afterwards. You can get knockoffs for a few dollars or I imagine something like foam pipe insulation would work, too.
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3 years 3 months ago #37910 by jamiesaunders
Hi - do you have a file you could share so I could get one of those made? looks like it solves my issue of the watch moving around perfectly

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3 years 3 months ago #37914 by Arcturus
Heads-up for new Suunto buyers:  the company was sold a year or so ago and is still trying to sort out the various softwares you need to get the full benefit of using one. I bought a Traverse Alpha  at the end of summer, registered it, and immediately received lots of e-mails that superseded or conflicted with previous e-mailed instructions. I decided to not upload any data from my outings, even though that means I have no access to customizing the watch displays or to either deleting or archiving logged activities (both of which I can do as standalone actions on my old Garmin Forerunner 310XT). 

However, the Suunto in standalone mode works well for hiking. (I would want to customize the display for paddling the ski.) It does update the current speed quickly and as a general timepiece it is very easy to read, with long battery life. Not long when GPS functions are on, though!

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3 years 3 months ago #37920 by sarzelopez

Arcturus wrote: Heads-up for new Suunto buyers:  the company was sold a year or so ago and is still trying to sort out the various softwares you need to get the full benefit of using one. I bought a Traverse Alpha  at the end of summer, registered it, and immediately received lots of e-mails that superseded or conflicted with previous e-mailed instructions. I decided to not upload any data from my outings, even though that means I have no access to customizing the watch displays or to either deleting or archiving logged activities (both of which I can do as standalone actions on my old Garmin Forerunner 310XT). 

However, the Suunto in standalone mode works well for hiking. (I would want to customize the display for paddling the ski.) It does update the current speed quickly and as a general timepiece it is very easy to read, with long battery life. Not long when GPS functions are on, though!


You can still customize the watch displays for each activity settings and routes through movescount.com, but you have to download suuntolink in addition to the old moveslink. I didn't use mine for months assuming the new procedure would be glitchy but it was literally 1 click and forget about it.

Actually seeing the data from the outings I wouldn't  know as I too use a Garmin for that, but I believe its through the suunto link phone app.

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3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago #37921 by Arcturus
So you customized the watch displays but have not uploaded your logs?

I got messages telling me to register at movescount.com, suuntolink.com, and suuntoapp.com, not necessarily in that order and not all three in any message. I registered after getting the first message, but because when I tried to do anything I kept getting told to sign up for yet another site, I got suspicious. Then I got messages stating that they were still working on the transition to the new ownership and after a certain date I should re-register. 

To make things worse, Suunto used to have 24/7 tech assistance. That got pared down to an extremely abbreviated schedule. I contacted them about one function which required only a yes or no answer, but the rep did not say anything beyond what the slew of e-mails had contained.

Meanwhile, I’m still waiting to see if they get their reorg act together. The Suunto forum also seems to be either inactive or locked to viewing without registration. Trying to register for that led to the same merry-go-round.

I just found a recent third-party report on what he is seeing for the Suunto mess. His  earlier report, from 2019, is also enlightening,
besthiking.net/suunto-app-review/
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3 years 3 months ago #37927 by sarzelopez
Yeah, they make you download suuntolink just to tell you everything still has to go through movescount. The registered account is the same for both so you would only need to register once. I've been registered since 2016 though, the problem might be they can't register new accounts for movescount or something like that?

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