Re: 68.8km/h on a Double Ski

What double ski was Barry and Mark paddling ? An Apex ?

Apex 2 with a nose cone

on the roof of his car maybe

Us Kiwi's are such sceptics

RAB , we're all waiting?Show us the file!

I paddle out of Currumbin Gold Coast almost daily. I would be very interested to see the Garmin file of a 49kph run round these here parts...

41kph actually.
I don't use Garmin online, I use the much more accurate and versatile software on my computer.

Try going out in the afternoon when the wind picks up, instead of the morning, and then go out on the days that everybody else stays home as well.

I have a video of coming in at Palmy at 29kmh.
The alley looked too dangerous.

All I did was fluke a wind wave assistance to catch the big fast ones that normally roll under me.

Where they kick up half way between Pt Danger and Currumbin.

Between Snapper and Currumbin are the most sheltered on the Gold Coast.

Kingsscliff to Cook Island is where it gets real big, very open deep water there. Some of the lads I paddle with have done some runs in very big conditions. Some of the speeds reported got up to 22-28kmh by the better paddlers.

41kmh is a big call. It could be an error on the watch. Its not un common.

Three times in a row?

The waves went steep that day and when I picked it up proper, I honestly thought it was going to toss me frontwards out of the bucket because of the steepness, it was like looking out over a cliff when on the top.
It's where the wave seems to hit a shallower bit and stand up a little higher and steeper.

The big ground swell was more easterly so open to the full ocean, and the wind waves from the SE, so on a direct line from Pt Danger to Currumbin.
No way would I have picked it up without the wind assistance, I had an average speed of 15.6km/h up until the point where I stopped and looked around to find my partner.

Just a quick time line here:

2 weeks ago this post unfolds. RAB posts a top speed of 49kph (and 28 and 39), one which I accepted as true on face value.

1 week 4 days ago Stew calls for RAB's link. For the following 1 week and 3 days RAB hits radio silence on this thread (even foregoing KiwiBruce's taunt).

1 day ago RAB posts in a response that it was '41kph actually' (thats 8kph slower) as if to correct someone else's statement. No apology or explanation offered along the like of 'it was a typo', or 'I was wrong'. And software too advanced to send a link(?) Then do an (authentic) screenshot and publish that.

RAB, you've had the benefit of the doubt over a week to back up your claim.

What gives?

Not only did I go silent on this thread, but on all threads, as well as some other message boards.
I was merely reading on my iphone whilst I sorted out computer issues.
49 was a mistake on my part; when I checked the file it was 41.

I will not post a garmin file on here, as they have no security.
Once one file is posted, anybody can tab back and forth through your files.
I, for example have gone back through the last three years of Oscars participation in Hawaii to gain an insight of his pacing for that length event.
All allowed because he posted a course map here somewhere in an article.

I don't wish anybody access to my files as it allows them to build a profile on my comings and goings.
Lets see, always paddles at 6am on Mondays for two hours, that should give us time to do our dastardly deed.

So no, I will never post a garmin file on here.

Having seen first hand what can be done with personal info and recently having to cancel my credit card due to somebody in new york renting a motel suite with it, I will post no more than I want to.
Simple as that.

Nor should you have to. I don't agree with half of what RAB says, but if he says he did 41kmh, so what. Leave it at that. RAB...sometimes right, sometimes wrong, sometimes full of it, but always gives me something to talk about with my mates in the morning. Still waiting on the new boat though!

Right on Dicko! anyone who follows any threads on this forum has surely been challenged by RAB's ongoing thinking! Im sure even our cult leader Mr. Mousely has learnt a thing or two from RAB's rants or raves (whichever mood he might be holding onto after a paddle).

Good work RAB, even if i dont always agree its good to think a little, Thanks!

As for data capturing on gps, guys we all need to be paddling with at least two on us at all times! That should solve it..

Paddle Hard!

Im sure even our cult leader Mr. Mousely has learnt a thing or two from RAB's rants or raves

Too right - and anyone who contributes so much on the forum (791 times at the last count) is ok in my book!

But if you DID want to post your gps track without opening up your account, RAB, you could take a screenshot of the speed/HR trace and just post that

lol, love it...

How about a screen shot, RAB? We'd all love to see this file. I'll never experience speed like that, would be great to see how it's done, the set of runs that lead to this big speed etc.

At deano's big Saturday session last Saturday I cracked 29.3km down a big wave coming into little Makaha, as did many of the group that morning.

Big! Swell and some carnage, four boats damaged out of a pack of about 12-15.

I tell you 29kph on the water is quick, no paddle entry is possible.

I'm just pissed that I didn't have the gopro on board,that morning.

After all the wild claims on the previous pages, is there actually any evidence for some of those high speeds (even if it were "just" 41 km)? I'd like to get a better understanding of what is and what is not reasonable.

Posting an actual file or even screenshot that establishes some real runs (not just misinterpreted turns) would be nice to make sure there this forum has more real information here than posturing.

I tell you 29kph on the water is quick, no paddle entry is possible.

Not true, If you dramatically shorten your paddle it is certainly possible to paddle at that speed.

I remember Catching a speed boat wake when I was using a paddle length of 217cm, absolutely no hope of paddling and a bloody near threw myself out of the boat.
I didn't at the time realise that the speed was that high(around 24kmh).

But with a 205cm, it's crazy what you can paddle on.
The catch happens closer to you with a more vertical paddle and the catch happens super quick.
Give it a go, it will surprise you.

24+ km/h with a Fenn XT on a reef break : at that speed, paddling was useless.
connect.garmin.com/activity/102670328

same reef break with a mako6. GPS says 32+ km/h, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong, so I would really like to have a look at gps files showing warp speed records.
connect.garmin.com/activity/138535876