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Foiling Surfski?
3 years 9 months ago #38132
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
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A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
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Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
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Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski - flight control?
@waterbornewarrior
The Trampofoil has a scanning nose for the waves and as long the waves are not to steep (and no floating objects), it works quite well.
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/trampofoil/
The Trampofoil has a scanning nose for the waves and as long the waves are not to steep (and no floating objects), it works quite well.
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/trampofoil/
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38133
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Waveflyer is a foiling jetski and foils quite well.
www.designboom.com/technology/waveflyer-...-jet-ski-08-05-2019/
www.designboom.com/technology/waveflyer-...-jet-ski-08-05-2019/
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38134
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
@feeny
Revo's Foiling Surfski seems not to have a good stability at fight.
If the floil is long (and thin carbon)., it will bend with the foiling force to a U-shape. Than you get a very good stability.
Similar than the WingBike:
www.wingbike.nl/Wingbike_Hydrofoil/Home.html
Revo's Foiling Surfski seems not to have a good stability at fight.
If the floil is long (and thin carbon)., it will bend with the foiling force to a U-shape. Than you get a very good stability.
Similar than the WingBike:
www.wingbike.nl/Wingbike_Hydrofoil/Home.html
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38135
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Would it make sense to get more good foiling surfski experience to build a multihull foiling Surfski (e.g. with two double Surfskis at the beginning)?
At the old foiling days this was a typical setup and you can focus on the foil-design first instead of the stability issues:
Pogofoil
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/...oil-parker-mccready/
At the old foiling days this was a typical setup and you can focus on the foil-design first instead of the stability issues:
Pogofoil
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/...oil-parker-mccready/
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38136
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Hitory:
Wasserläufer, the first human powered hydrofoil from 1953, managed to fly over the water!!
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/...l-ing-julius-schuck/
Wasserläufer, the first human powered hydrofoil from 1953, managed to fly over the water!!
human-powered-hydrofoils.com/hydrofoils/...l-ing-julius-schuck/
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38137
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Foiling via Foil Pumping
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A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
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3 years 9 months ago #38138
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Here some Test Foiling Kayak from DK:
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38139
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
The idea with the kick starter motor is great!
Probably the most tiny version from www.thrustme.no will do it.
www.thrustme.no/eu/thruster-more-eu
Probably the most tiny version from www.thrustme.no will do it.
www.thrustme.no/eu/thruster-more-eu
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38140
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Any spilling water is pure waste of energy. In this sense the Trampofoil is utra modern, with slow motion parts compared to the jet kayak.
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Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 9 months ago #38144
by sarzelopez
Replied by sarzelopez on topic Foiling Surfski?
Disclaimer: I know absolutely nothing about foiling.
My idea for the foil ski would be a shorter boat, with the seat more towards the bow of the ski. Like the Feather SoT K1
Longer foil on the stern, shorter on the front. To have the boat in the surfing angle when foiling and to replace pumping your leg drive with that angle would direct the force "down" toward the foils, as opposed to mostly "forward" when the boat is horizontal
My idea for the foil ski would be a shorter boat, with the seat more towards the bow of the ski. Like the Feather SoT K1
Longer foil on the stern, shorter on the front. To have the boat in the surfing angle when foiling and to replace pumping your leg drive with that angle would direct the force "down" toward the foils, as opposed to mostly "forward" when the boat is horizontal
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3 years 8 months ago #38163
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
The AOA is quite sensitive:
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 8 months ago #38212
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
The American's Cup shows on a very high engineering level, that the foil-design is quite tricky. In the final no-one is the fastest boat!
www.americascup.com/
Sailing Analytics
www.americascup.com/en/advanced-dashboard
The NZ boat used AI to get the "better and faster" boat. They pushed very hard to save 30% of the surface at the foil under water. The first race was an success, but the second Italy was faster. Both boats are quite excellent, so in the end the foiling skills will decide which team is the best.
www.americascup.com/
Sailing Analytics
www.americascup.com/en/advanced-dashboard
The NZ boat used AI to get the "better and faster" boat. They pushed very hard to save 30% of the surface at the foil under water. The first race was an success, but the second Italy was faster. Both boats are quite excellent, so in the end the foiling skills will decide which team is the best.
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
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3 years 7 months ago #38249
by Charivari
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
Round the world trip by bike, 1990.
Sea-kayak from Vancouver to Alaska, 1990.
A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
Fyling A-Cat, DNA F1, 2018.
New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
First Surfski experience, material rent, 2020.
First Surfski, NK61, 2021
Replied by Charivari on topic Foiling Surfski?
Downwind Foiling with 30 km/h
Sailing since 1985, Laser, Cat.
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A-Cat, Bimare, 1990.
Coastal Rowing, Virus, 1992.
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New Coastal Rowing Boat, Volans, 2019.
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