EOS 660 green 7

Any opinions on the EOS 660? are they considered a fast ski? Compared to the green7 on flat water. In glass and is the supposed 15kg true
Gnome

I know of a couple of guys who've had or currently own a Green 7, where are you Dicko, Mav?

A couple of years ago some locals were raving about the EOS 660 but then they went quiet on it and I haven't seen any around so would be interested to know too.

I take it you've read this www.surfski.info/reviews/item/1119-surfs...-review-eos-660.html

If I had any spare money I'd buy a red 7 pro/ green 7 tomorrow just to paddle on classic downwind days, when the water is warm and there wasn't too much chop. It would be like owning a classic car. The 660 never impressed.
I've paddled with the same guys, 4 days a week for the last 6-7 years and everytime someone buys a new ski, you can tell how it travels by his position in the group. I had a mate who went from a v12 ultra to a green 7 and was faster in everything other than dead calm days.
Had a mate bought a 660 and always struggled to keep up. They're not a bad ski, just not as good as a red/green 7. I think they are similar shape, but with more rocker, which means they can turn. The downside is they lose speed on the flat.
The red 7 is probably not the fastest/best ski on the market, but I will argue that there aren't many skis that feel as good to sit in. Such a narrow catch and so stable for such a narrow ski.
I've heard a whisper that there is a guy in WA that has a carbon red 7 and a green 7 in his shed that he may be willing to part with. If I had the money I would love a shot at either.

I take it you've read this www.surfski.info/reviews/item/1119-surfs...-review-eos-660.html

For what it's worth, my buddy Dale (who features in that review) did buy a carbon EOS 660 but found it much more tippy than the glass version and sold it again quite quickly. Kayak Centre (the manufacturers of the EOS) have I think ceased production of the skis.

I loved my original glass/cork composite Green7, but struggled to paddle the carbon Red7. At one point we had two skis: a very light glass Red7 and a "heavy" carbon Red7. They were identical in everything (including weight) - just the layup was different. Both Dale and I found the glass version comfortable to paddle but found the much more rigid carbon one much more tippy. It was a striking demonstration of how stiffness can add to the tippiness of a ski.

Kayak Centre are manufacturing Think skis in SA. Not sure if they are still making their own skis though.

www.kayakcentre.co.za/thinkmax.html

Kayak Centre are manufacturing Think skis in SA. Not sure if they are still making their own skis though.

Things change fast here... Their website is out of date. I called them and they said that they are building only their own boats, mostly Zeplins.

They were considering making the Think boats, but although they built a couple (I paddled the first - heavy, 20kg - Evo II) they decided against it. (Word on the street is that the guy who was driving ski manufacturer is now focussed on their paddle business.)

Rumour has it that Carbonology Sport is making Think boats here now, and further rumour has it that the first light hybrid Evo II is due to come down here in the next couple of weeks. If so, I can't wait to try it, I paddled a 12kg Evo II in Hong Kong in rough water and loved it. (Paddled the heavy one here a couple of times, loved it downwind, but on rough, choppy water I battled to get it to go. I'm blaming the weight!)

Such a shame you didn't get some downwind in HK to try the 12 kg Evo II in those conditions. Would have loved to hear your comparison of it and the 20kg demo.

Stew wrote: Such a shame you didn't get some downwind in HK to try the 12 kg Evo II in those conditions. Would have loved to hear your comparison of it and the 20kg demo.

Hmm... Well on race day in those tiny bumps that started about 1/3 of the way to the Kissing Whales, the light boat was really picking up the runs and I was overtaking people, which always makes me happy!

And I did a couple of paddles out to the Kissing Whales from Stanley in the days leading up to the race, so I got to try it in the hectic rebound conditions near the Whales and in the runs coming back along the cliffs... it was great. But you can't really tell how you're doing unless you're paddling with a regular marker - for example whenever I do a paddle with my buddy Dale Lippstreu, it always turns into a race... and that's great for comparing boats.

Anyway - hopefully there will be a few of our Tuesday night races left by the time we get the Carbonology boat so I can get a better idea of how I do in the boat.