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photofr wrote: Shark attacks are seemingly more frequent these days. Hawaii, for example, didn't really see many attacks on humans until "very recently".
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davgdavg wrote:
photofr wrote: Shark attacks are seemingly more frequent these days. Hawaii, for example, didn't really see many attacks on humans until "very recently".
Sorry Photofr, but Hawaii historically had tons of attacks. The Polynesians have literally thousands of stories about various shark attacks. Some of the sharks even became famous for eating people and/or up to destroying canoes.
Statistically the attack % was much higher before people started hunting sharks. The only change was that sharks were later heavily hunted. The hunting has stopped in the last 20 years, and the attacks are now returning to levels as they would be before. People in California and Hawaii are going to poop themselves when these juveniles come back and start eating people. Reunion Island is a perfect example of what a normal shark population with people in the water looks like. Hawaii, California, SA and Australia will just be bigger examples of the same.
imo, the only realistic solution to reduce attacks, if thats what people want, is to cull the sharks. People take enough out of the ocean from all species that we already do the shark's job anyways. Many people don't want to hear it, but the reality is that even if all sharks went extinct, the ocean would likely be fine if seal/sea lion hunting were also legalized. Humans take so much from the ocean that its a balanced situation.
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photofr wrote:
Davegdaveg:
Seems like you are saying that culling sharks / hunting sharks has stopped in Hawaii since 1997 (or there about). However, there may be some innaccuracy with your statement because:
- Hawaiian residents do not typically hunt sharks, mainly because Hawaiians have a huge respect towards sharks.
- the word 'CULL' has not been used once in my presence while living in Hawaii for 30 years.
- Hawaii is near the top regarding controversies and hunting sharks.
Ref.: "historically, Hawaii had tons of shark attacks"
I am unclear as to where you get your facts about Hawaii. However, from personal experience (and not behind a desk) this is just untrue.
Hawaiian waters used to be super safe.
Loss of human life in HI (due to sharks) was pretty much unheard of.
Some attacks occurred, but even then, they were super rare and highly provoked (free diver trailing bloody fish in the water for miles, etc.).
You'd call Hawaii being shark-infested waters, but I would have called HI as a healthy marine life.
Native Hawaiians knew a thing or two about balance - on land and in the water. Native Americans also had it down to an artform. Us white people come up with inaccurate statistics taken out of context in order to justify surpressing other species.
Seriously, when you go to Montana, to you go out killing every single Grizzly bears so that you can feel safer while hiking? Then why remove sharks?
Hiking in MT, swimming in FL, surfing in CA, surfski paddling in South Africa all have one thing in common: recreation.
Perhaps, we should look at ourselves first, and re-evaluate our actions on this plannet before destroying another specy.
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photofr wrote:
You are totally entitled to your beliefs. I am just asking that you keep an open mind to see if there's anything YOU COULD DO to make it a better place.
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